'If you clock in at 8:01 instead of 8:00, they deduct 15 minutes': Company rounds every minute in their favor, effectively stealing hours of time from their employees

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My job rounds every minute in their favor and management actually put it in writing.

We got a new timekeeping policy this month and I thought I was misunderstanding it until my manager explained it. If you clock in at 8:01 instead of 8:00, they deduct 15 minutes because you're considered late for that block.
But if you stay until 5:08 finishing something, you still get clocked out at 5 because anything under 15 minutes of extra time supposedly doesn't count. We asked in the meeting why the rounding only seems to work one direction and our manager literally said, "because staying a few minutes to finish your responsibilities is expected."
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It's the fact that somehow 1 minute belongs to them when you're late, but 8 minutes still belongs to them when you stay late. People have started standing next to the time clock at exactly 4:55 waiting for 5 now and management is already complaining about that too.
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SupaSqueezey Print that policy off and skip on down to your nearest employment/wage lawyer. They'll be your best friend lol
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CoffeePotProphet oh honey. if youre in the US thats a slam dunk wage theft case
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DarthMonkey212313 The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) permits timeclock rounding to the nearest fraction of an hour (nearest 5 minutes, 6 minutes, or quarter-hour) but recognizes that the practice can, if not structured appropriately, result in the failure to compensate employees for all time worked.
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For timeclock rounding to be compliant with the FLSA, the practice must be neutral on its face and average out over time to not consistently favor the employer. Meaning, timeclock rounding must sometimes favor the employee. A compliant timeclock rounding practice should average out in the long term.
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MrSlime13 A job I worked at a while ago had a similar, but fairer system. Essentially, they'd round any time clock punches to the nearest 15. If you clocked in at 6:07, it's be considered 6:00 in the system. If you clocked in at 6:08, you were 15 minutes
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late. Sure it might grant more allowances on people's time, but I really have to wonder, "why not just go by the time, and stop acting like the first 3 minutes of work are going to make or break the day's productivity"...
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SheDrinksScotch My old boss told us the opposite. He said if we work any portion of a 15 minute block, we clock the whole thing. Told the new boss. today and she didnt challenge it.
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zildux It's ABSOLUTELY incredible when companies put blatantly illegal things in writing. They always used. legal jargon to try to make it seem like it's above board when in fact it will never hold up in court.
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I've said many times but management makes BANK on the fact most employees will never educate themselves on their rights and local laws. And if they are confronted with it, just offer a nice payout avoiding court with the added stipulation the person is us getting paid cannot reveal the amount or the reason for the payout.
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Oiseansl I knew companies that would do this in the 90s and if sued or complaints they would start with closing the location regardless of how many
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werewolf6780 Ah yes I had a similar issue with a veterinarian I worked for. 1 minute late was 15 minutes without pay but working over your scheduled hours was just expected.
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She basically refused to pay us our overtime wages if she didn't approve it. Also regularly had to work through my unpaid lunch because otherwise no one was making sure patients out of surry were stable. No, I don't work there anymore.
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andyspam1 To be fair everywhere I've worked has done this. The only way around it is to stay until 5:15, its frustrating and completely collapses the idea of 'give and take' for both sides but stick to the rules and they'll be complaining about the 40 hours of 15 min overtime
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Grass_roots_farmer My former job had the 7/8 rounding also. We would get there 8 minutes before and leave 8 minutes after. For a total for .5 hours rounded. Bosses caught on and locked the time clock for arrival so you could only clock in no more than 7
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minutes early. We then started waiting until exact start time and leaving 8 minutes late. They eventually gave up on 7/8 rounding, citing difficulties. in enforcing the policies. Works better when everyone is doing it as supposed to just a few....
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